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Ukraine will develop new surface-to-air missile system
The Government of Ukraine has approved the development of a new medium-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, Army Recognition reports.
The SAM, which will have an engagement range of up to 25 km and maximum altitude of 7,000 metres, will be designated the DNIPRO. The DNIPRO will be accompanied by a Ukrainian phased-array surveillance and tracking radar with a range of 150 km.
The system will be capable of engaging up to six aerial targets simultaneously.
Notes & Comments:
As with most of its major defence hardware, Ukraine inherited its air defence inventory from the Soviet Union. The Ukrainian industry is competent in maintaining and overhauling these systems, which include the S-300 line of long-range SAM, but original development is a significant step forward. Kiev is embracing the notion that the defensibility of interests rest on its ability to domestically source defence systems, such as aircraft, armoured vehicles, naval vessels, and SAMs. For Kiev, collaboration is a method, which can be seen in Ukraine’s growth in defence production partnerships with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Poland, and Pakistan, but in-house production and control over intellectual property are essential goals.
The DNIPRO design seems to occupy a similar space as the Denel Dynamics Umkhonto and Roketsan Hisar-O as a short to medium-range SAM system. Details are scarce, but industry trends might inform Ukraine’s design approach for the missile. For example, terminal active-homing – through an imaging infrared (IIR) seeker or active radar-homing (ARH) seeker – could be a plausible feature. Ukraine would also be well-advised to rework the launch design (initially or at a later stage) for vertical-launch, which would enable it to be deployable from surface warships.
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by Steve
We should join Turkey’s efforts to build a long range SAM. They almost bought HQ-9 with TOT. Now they are looking at S-300/400. With our adversaries having a larger air force it may be a way of deterring an adventure particularly in the south or in Kashmir. We don’t want a situation again in which our NLI was being bombed and we could or would not engage for fear of escalation as we did not have the weapons and called it being ‘responsible’ and ‘preventing’ war. Long range air defence missiles can cover strategic areas and major bases/cities, and keep India’s AWAC’s away from border areas. This Ukraine development looks interesting. They have the expertise inherited from the USSR and could produce a S-400 equivalent. Long term goal should be to be able to indigenously build high quality systems with the Turks for deterring India, strategic alliances, and also overseas sales.
by Shakeel
What do you think that Pakistan can bring to the table In terms of development. Realistically not some unconfirmed or vague terms but exact components.?
Pakistan has historically shied away from any R&D and gets the tested weaponry without the need of re inventing the wheel as that fits our budget and ensures timely delivery
We can’t assist Turks in tech don’t have much money either and project will involve Thales ,MBDA and other western tech which can easily be sanctioned our best bet is to buy few units of HQ9 from China .
Even if we are to get the F22 they will be sanctioned and grounded the second we do anything against India only china will give us access to sanction less weapons thats why we should stick with them and keep them in our pocket just like India does with russia.
Problem is not the lack of weapon but the license to use it without any fear and repercussions we traded our sovereignty and operational freedom for free and subsidized quality American. Tech
The Indians kept their operational freedom and sovereignty for shoddy inferior somewhat unreliable and maintenance heavy Russian tech.
It’s a out priorities if we are serious about fulfilling our objectives maybe taking Kashmir then china is the way to go however unreliable but a bird in hand is 100 times better than the one who is not it’s always better than some shiny weaponry that we could get but can’t use freely and would be sanctioned when needed.
by Headstrong
But they were all ‘indigenous militants’ at Kargil, weren’t they? Yes, that Kargil – you know? Across the LoC? No Pakistani troops were there, Musharraf had assured us all. Especially as this had happened just after the ‘rapprochement’ via the Lahore Bus diplomacy. Surely you’re not suggesting that Pakistan, the ‘land of the pure’, acted impurely?
by Headstrong
And yet the ‘shoddy, inferior, somewhat unreliable and maintenance heavy Russian tech’ more than held its own against some very advanced American weaponry? And yet Pakistan craves that same inferior Russian technology now?
Must have something to do with the man behind the machine…..
by Shakeel
Sorry Steve, this guys faked my identity. I will have to consider changing my name.
by Abdul Rashid
Shakeel, the other guys name could also be Shakeel? He is not necessarily faking your ID.
by Shakeel
Some confusion hey. Shakeel welcomes Shakeel.
by Shakeel
Shoo go away indian
by Superior Shakeel
So do you got a copyright on that name bruv???
There are more than 10 million user accounts on Facebook named shakeel alone.
Why must we always be so jumpy and emotional. Geez Louise you guys.
by Steve
I was not addressing you. You must be worried that we are not all jihadi maniacs and discuss options calmly, realistically, but fearlessly. However, as far as India is concerned the gloves are of Mr Headstring. Glad you have awakened after being away for so long following our vigorous discussion lol. We can act as we wish with an old enemy who wants to see us destroyed, it’s called Takkiya I think. No desire to start a flame war as could not be bothered.
by Steve
I agree with you historically but we have to start somewhere. We can buy a few HQ-9 systems if we don’t want to change. However some money given in R&D may be useful to get a foot in the door to acquire tech. Turkey may indigenise the tech making it sanctions proof. We need tech!
by Abdul Rashid
Lol, that would be a nice way to settle the War of The Two Shakeels.
by Steve
Could be duel. Pistols at dawn lol!
by Abdul Rashid
I’m no Mullah (thank God, from the experience I have of them) but I think Taqiya is not how you seem to understand it.
Islam allows armed conflict under certain conditions, one of which is to free a people from oppression and it is justified to deceive the enemy, just as they too would be making every effort to do the same. But this would not be Taqiya, even though it would be just war.
If someone held a knife to my throat and told me to renounce my faith and I ‘complied’ to safeguard my life, this would be Taqiya.
Again, I’m no Mullah so please anyone feel free to correct me. I felt it necessary to clarify this because some anti-Islamic groups misrepresent Taqiya as Islam’s “permission to lie”.
by Steve
Thanks for the clarification but not sure as I’ve not got much experience. Lying and deception in conflict is no big deal anyway, and is institutional, religious signposting aside. We all know about WMD lies. It’s the Indians with their holier than thou attitude that I was countering. As if they will be truthful in war. Prayer on the lips and dagger in the armpit is an old saying about our friends across the border. Kashmir certainly needs freeing from oppression. Do you know that after 1492 Muslims of Spain were forced to eat pork and drink wine from pickets outside every town and city while officials watched closely to catch them during the Inquisition. Don’t know how many used this facility.
by Abdul Rashid
The Inquisition certainly is a sad episode in Islamic history. Many Christians found with olive oil in their homes were executed too. True Christians apparently fry their food in butter!
I’m an ethnic Kashmiri (AJK) and uncompromisingly Pakistani.
by Superior Shakeel
Turkey will license manufacture them that is all.
there is a reason we haven’t bought altay MBT and going for second trial of somewhat underpowered and inferior oplot M tanks because altay has German engines and lot of Airbus tech and would be sanctioned easily when needed.
I find it strange that all Pakistan jump on Turkish bandwagon and see them as any sort of real weapon manufacturer or viable option there entire industry is based of from generous tech transfer from Europe and license manufacturing they are a NATO member for crying out loud in the eventual showdown we most likely will be fighting against them as they are NATO since we have picked our side.
We need to be real here and stop smoking ummah weed turkey is a infant as compared to Chinese industry and however much we love them they can’t do jack when the sanctions will hit us and neither will they fight for us or have any power on global stage as compared to china.
FC 31 is a flying prototype now and has better chance of joining PAF than the TAI paper plane.
And HQ 9 is a good system so buy it now no point in spending token amount on R&D when we haven’t done that in 70 years and have no knack or culture for that.
by Superior Shakeel
I’ll use a sniper why risk going in close quarter combat when I can take it out from miles away.
by Shakeel
No copy rights issues here. Just trying to make a distinction between chalk & cheese.Superior Shakeel sounds fine to me. Did not want to give Steve the impression that I was on drugs overnight.Apologies, if I over-reacted.
by Steve
Headstring, You really are a sucker for being embarrassed and exposed. Look I have no desire to waste time in a flame war with an Indian who may be on RAW payroll to troll forums, and promote that extremely highly developed and advanced country called India. We know you guys do that, unlike us who do it for fun and distraction, so no thanks. Interestingly i have said that a few times and no Indian has denied it lol.
by Headstrong
Ok ‘Steve’ so I’ll take that as you have no answer. Other than raising your favourite bogey – RAW. You really are scared to death of them, aren’t you?
When you troll, have some spine to back it up
by Superior Shakeel
there is no honor and satisfaction in battle my friend just kill or be killed besides there is no satisfaction greater than the sniper bullet hitting someone right in their head and generating a puff of pink mist due to the blow back as it pierces the victim’s head.
quick i need to shoot some watermelons now.
yeah this is getting a bit weird lol but i got my eye on you shakeel.